Vanover & Murphy & Page kid sorting out help

Original Facebook post: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 at 10:37pm.

Trying to get notes right on three sets of kids.  If you have tips or insight, it would be appreciated by cousins near & far who are linked with us all.
These are notes I have from various visits with my Granny Zettie Walker "Tudy" (Johnson) Bates.
Andrew William Vanover b Sep 1838 and died in Letcher Co KY
s/o William Vanover & Sarah Perry (both from NC)
First marriage of A. W. Vanover to Nancy or Peggy Murphy
Second marriage of A. W. Vanover to Mary Page (married 6 Feb 1888, Letcher Co KY) (died/buried Letcher Co KY)
Mary Page was previously married -her maiden name and name of her husband I don't have handy in my notes I am quickly looking at.
Children of A. W. Vanover and Nancy or Peggy Murphy
Henry Vanover married a Murphy (children Oscar Vanover, Myrtle Vanover) then to Sarah Fox (who after Henry died, she married a Caudill)(children Willard Vanover, Aleen Vanover, Harvey Vanover, Katie Vanover).
George Vanover married Lydia Green, went to Virginia.
Rhody Vanover had son Levi Page the son of Melvin Page (I don't have notes if they were married or circumstances of their relationship) married Bill Maxie (children Ida Maxie who married a Stallard, and Garr Maxie).
Margaret "Mary Alice" "Babe" Vanover married Joseph Bates (my maternal ancestor)
Ethie Vanover married Jessie Mahall
Luize Vanover married an Ison/Isom then to Hiram Mitchell (there are various accountings as to why, but Nancy/Peggy was to an asylum for awhile and Luize was sent to a Caudill in Roxana, Letcher Co KY and raised as a child.) (Luize's children with Isom are Blancey Isom and Merlin Isom) (August 1920, Luize's sister Mary Alice heard where Luize was living at and went to visit her after a long time apart, in Letcher Co). Buried at Roxana, Letcher Co KY.
Children of A. W. Vanover and Mary Page
Hailey Vanover married Bob Johnson, lived in Letcher Co KY
Joe Vanover
Ellen Vanover married Jesse Stumbo
Virgie Vanover married a Mullins
Sarah Vanover married R. S. Stamper
Blaine Vanover never married
Children of Mary Page and unknown to me first husband (or relationship, not certain was married)
Emma Page
"Dope" Page
Melvin Page

Kite, Knott County, Kentucky Cemetery Notes

Original Facebook post: Sunday, March 20, 2011 at 10:43pm.

Kite, Knott County, Kentucky Cemetery Notes

Source & Recollection of: Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates, my maternal grandmother, in January 1993.
Compiled by: Thursa M. (Halcomb-Nunley) Short
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Levi Page Cemetery
Location: Kite, Knott County KY; mouth of Beaver Creek, across the mountain from Bates Family Cemetery (heading up Bill D Hall holler not far from old school house)
               Rhody (Johnson) Anderson            d/o Caleb & Mahala Johnson
               Cicero Anderson                              married Rhody (Johnson) Anderson
               Lee Johnson                                      s/o Caleb & Mahala Johnson
               Willie Anderson                                youngest s/o Cicero & Rhody Anderson
               Samuel Hall                                       s/o Dick Hall and Nell (Hall) Bates
               Lynn Hall                                            d/o Elisha & Betsy Johnson; married Samuel Hall
               Alice “Dee” Thornsberry                     d/o Sam & Lynn Hall
               Webb Thornsberry                          married Alice “Dee” Thornsberry

Johnson Family Cemetery
Location: Kite, Knott County KY; head of hollow on Bill D. Hall branch (all the way up to the end of the holler)
               Tout “Hennyman” Hall                   s/o Sam & Lynn Hall; first person buried there.
               Kanawha Johnson                           s/o Caleb “K” & Angeline “Pemmie” (Hall) Johnson
               Jack Thornsberry                             s/o Marshall & Rosanne Thornsberry; married Rosannie
                                                                     (Johnson) Thornsberry the d/o Caleb & Angeline Johnson
               Inez Thornsberry                              d/o Jack & Rosannie (Johnson) Thornsberry
               Dorothy Jean Thornsberry             d/o Jack & Rosannie (Johnson) Thornsberry; twin daughter,
                                                                 brother survived.
               Dihny (Vance) Johnson                   d/o Johnny & Sarah (Honeycutt) Vance; married Wedd Johnson
                                                                   s/o Caleb & Angeline (Hall) Johnson
               Vaner Johnson                                 d/o Wedd & Dihny (Vance) Johnson
               Annie May Johnson                         d/o Wedd & Dihny (Vance) Johnson
               Vedie Johnson                                  d/o Wedd & Dihny (Vance) Johnson
               Curtis Johnson                                  s/o Martin & Lily (Hall) Hall; Martin s/o Sam & Lynn
                                                                       (Johnson) Hall.
               ? Johnson                                          infant of Martin & Lily (Hall) Hall; Martin s/o Sam & Lynn
                                                                       (Johnson) Hall.
               ?                                                          infant of Gladys Hall, Gladys d/o Martin & Lily (Hall) Hall.
               ? Cain                                                 infant of Dock & Patsy Cain (no Hall or Johnson relationship)
               ? Grimes, ? Grimes                          infant twins of John & Polly Grimes (no Hall or Johnson
                                                                     relationship)
               Sarah Vance                                      mother of Dihny (Vance) Johnson
               Johnny Vance                                   father of Dihny (Vance) Johnson
               William Vance                                  s/o Sarah & Johnny Vance.

Perry Cemetery
               Location: Kite, Knott County Kentucky
               Lilly (Cook-Robinson) Hall              married Martin Hall; Martin s/o Sam & Lynn Hall
               Farris Hall                                          s/o Lilly Hall
               Willie Hall                                          s/o Lilly Hall
               Roy Hall                                             s/o Lilly Hall
               Lynn Hall                                            d/o Martin & Lilly Hall; Martin s/o Sam & Lynn Hall

Caleb “K” Johnson Cemetery
Location: Kite, Knott County Kentucky; at mouth of Bill D Branch hollow; below the Bates cemetery (now would be looking at is a back old cemetery area of the new chain link area.)
               Catheline “Cat” Pinson                   sister of Elizabeth “Betsy” (Pinson) Johnson; burial plot marks the                                                             original old gate area; first person buried there about Spring of 1909.
               “Coon” Meade                                 d/o “Pink” Hall and ? Meade.
               ? Cain                                                 infant of Wilson & Pat Annie Cain; Pat Annie the d/o Bill & Nell
                                                                        (Hall) Bates; infant was 3 weeks old at time of death.
               Pat Annie (Bates) Cain                    d/o William “Bill” and Nell (Hall) Bates
               Bert Hall                                            married Mary Hall
               Mary (Bates) Hall                             d/o Uriah  & Mary (Higgins) Bates
               Hattie Hall                                         d/o Bert & Mary (Bates) Hall; age 9 or 10 years at death.
               ? Hall                                                  infant of Bert & Mary (Bates) Hall
               ? Hall                                                  infant of Bert & Mary (Bates) Hall
               ? Hall                                                  infant of Bert & Mary (Bates) Hall
               ? Vance                                              infant daughter of Sarah & Johnny Vance
               Hattie Johnson                                 d/o Caleb “K” and Angeline “Pemmie” (Hall) Johnson
               Haz Hall                                             married Betsy Johnson; Betsy d/o Caleb & Mahala Johnson
               ? Holbrooks; ? Holbrooks              twin infants of Jess Holbrooks; no relation to Hall or Johnson
                                                                 Family
               Hun Anderson                                   s/o Cicero & Rhody (Johnson) Anderson; Rhody d/o Caleb &                                                                     Mahala Johnson.
               Lena Anderson                                 Married Hun Anderson
               Vergie Anderson                              d/o Hun & Lena Anderson
               ? Anderson                                        infant of Hun & Lena Anderson

Personal Obituary Card collection of Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates

Original Facebook post: Sunday, March 13, 2011 at 10:33pm.

Personal Obituary Card collection of Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates
Collected Jan 1993 by Thursa M. (Halcomb-Nunley) Short.



Landis Bates
               Born: 08 Mar 1908.
               Died: 08 Apr 1987.
               Services: Friday, 10 Apr 1987, 11 AM at Rebecca Baptist Church.
               Clergymen: Regular Baptist ministers.
               Final Resting Place: King Cemetery, Kite, KY.
               Arrangements: Hall Funeral Home, Martin, KY.
*NOTE according to my maternal Grandmother Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates: s/o Joseph “Joe” & Mary Alice (Vanover) Bates; he is her brother-in-law.         

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Elmer Hackworth
Born: 05 Aug 1927.
Died: 12 Jan 1992.
Services: Wednesday, 15 Jan 1992, 10:30 AM at Floyd Funeral Home Chapel.
Clergymen: Rev. Herbert Arms and Brother Isom Pope.
Place of Interment: Davidson Memorial Gardens, Ivel, KY.
Arrangements: Floyd Funeral Home, Prestonsburg, KY.
*NOTE according to my maternal Grandmother Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates: married Verbal “Bobbie” Bates the d/o Earnest and Virginia (Anderson) Bates.

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Levi Page
               Born 20 May 1891.
               Died 10 Oct 1967.
               Services: At the home, 10 AM, Friday 13 Oct 1967.
               Clergymen: Regular Baptist ministers.
               Final Resting Place: Page Cemetery, Kite, KY.
               Arrangements: Hall Brothers Funeral Home.

*NOTE according to my maternal Grandmother Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates: s/o Rhody (Vanover) Maxie and Melvin Page. Cemetery is located on Bill H. Hall Branch near Kite, Knott Co KY.)

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Willie Wright
               Services at Little Rock Regular Baptist Church of Kona, KY on Saturday, 27 Apr 1974 at 2 PM.
               Ministers: Patton Taylor, Dave Wagnor, Ralph Potter.
               Active Pallbearers: friends and family.
               Burial at Green Acres Cemetery, Ermine, KY.
               Arrangements: Blair Funeral Home, Inc., Whitesburg, KY.
               Obituary:
               3 sons preceded death.
               s/o Isaac & Susan Rose Wright.
               Born: 28 Apr 1891.
               82 years, 11 months, 26 days old.
               Survived:
               Wife, Ardelia Sanders Wright of Thornton, KY
5 sons: Isaac William Wright of Cincinnati, OH; Dewey Wright of West Liberty, OH; Leslie Wright of Delaware, OH; Charles Melvin Wright of Mayking, KY; Sherman Wright of Winchester, IN.
4 daughters: Ruth Ellison of Thornton, KY; Vernia Bates of Roxana, KY; Fleda Little of Garden City, Michigan; Sarah Tucker of Goshen, IN.
1 brother: Sherman Wright of West Liberty, KY.
1 sister: Ida Coffee of West Liberty, KY.
35 Grandchildren, 22 great-grandchildren, 5 great-grandchildren.

*NOTE: Veria married Greeley Bates, the son of Andrew J. “Andy” and Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates, my maternal grandparents.

Letcher County Confederate Veterans; By James G. Cornett; first printing Oct 1994.

Original Facebook post: Sunday, March 13, 2011 at 10:12pm.

Letcher County Confederate Veterans; By James G. Cornett; first printing Oct 1994.
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Page 2. (from section: Letcher County at the beginning of the Civil War)
Line Fork notes.
               Pop 400.
               Postmaster O.G. Halcomb.
               Businesses included:
Samuel Cornett, blacksmith.
Phillip Hall, justice of the peace.
H.C. Halcomb, physician.
John R. Halcomb, teacher.
O.G. Halcomb, farmer and justice of the peace.
Solomon Halcomb, constable.
Rev. Hugh Ison, Baptist preacher.
A.J. and Henderson Halcomb, corn and flour mill.
Gideon Ison, general store, livestock, farmer.
W. Sparkman, grist and saw mill.
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Page 3. (from section: Letcher County at the beginning of the Civil War)
Pine Top notes.
               Pop 200.
               Located 20 miles north of Whitesburg.
               Postmaster Randolph B. Smith.
               Businesses included:
               A.A. Amburgy, flour mill, blacksmith.
               John N. Craft, general store.
               N.R. Craft, farmer.
               Rev. James Huff, Baptist preacher.
               William Madden, livestock.
               Campbell Pigman, flour mill.
               James M. Pigman, teacher, justice of the peace.
               John Reynolds, shoemaker.
               W. Reynolds, farmer.
               Hardin Slone, cooper.
I. Slone, blacksmith.
               James Slone, mail contractor.
               John L. Thomas, teacher.
               W.R. Thomas, school teacher.
               Rev. John C. Slone, Baptist preacher.
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Page 6. (from the Forward)
“Letcher county suffered much during the Civil War.  Most of the men were gone.  Bands of guerrillas raided the countryside, carrying off all the food they could carry and performing many unprintable acts on the people.  They also burned the county court house to the ground, destroying all the old county records.”
“All the Confederate Veterans listed in this book were members of “The Orphan Brigade”.  Originally, there were 4,000 soldiers in this group.  Only about 500 of these survived to the War’s end.  They were one of the last Confederate groups East of the Mississippi to lay down their arms.  They distinguished themselves by showing to their superiors discipline, morale and effective military tactics.  The Orphan Brigade surrendered at Washington Courthouse, Georgia in May 1865.”
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Page 12. (from Letcher County Confederate Volunteers: Company F, 5th Regiment Infantry, KY Volunteers, CSA)
               Pvt Uriah Bates
Enlisted 01 Nov 1861.
Died: measles at Holston, VA on 01 May 1862.
Page 17. (from Letcher County Confederate Volunteers: Company A, 13th Regiment Cavalry, KY Volunteers, CSA)
               4th Sgt O.G. Halcomb
                              Enlisted 01 Nov 1862.
               Pvt Oliver Halcomb
                              Enlisted 01 Nov 1861.
Page 42. (from Letcher County Confederate Volunteers: Company E, 13th Regiment Calvary, KY Volunteers, CSA)
               Capt. William T. Hall
                              Enlisted 23 Apr 1863
               2nd Lt Henry Caudill
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
                              Promoted to rank 25 Oct 1862.
               2nd Lt Gilbert Johnson
                              Enlisted 21 Oct 1862.
               2nd Sgt Lee Hall
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               2nd Sgt William Hall
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               5th Sgt Caleb Johnson
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               1st Cpl Reuben Hall
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
                              Promoted to rank 03 Apr 1863.
               3rd Cpl David Hall
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               Pvt Anthony Hall
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               Pvt Harvey Johnson
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.
               Pvt Enoch Thornsberry
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862
               Martin V. Thornsberry
                              Enlisted 05 Oct 1862.

Old Regular Baptist Church, various Association’s Minute Book obituary notes.

Original Facebook post: Sunday, March 13, 2011 at 8:29pm.

Old Regular Baptist Church, various Association’s Minute Book obituary notes.

Compiled in early 1990’s by Thursa M. (Halcomb-Nunley) Short from my maternal Grandmother Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates collection.

Edited March 2011.
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Ellis Bates
               New Salem Association, 1988
               s/o Columbus “C. B.” Bates & Eliza
               Born 2 Nov 1914
               Died 4 Mar 1985
               Preceded in death: Parents; 1 son Marvin Douglas; a sister Cleranda Hall.
               Survivors: wife Miona. 2 daughters, Jacqueline and Arlene. 2 grandchildren Marty and Kendra. 4                  brothers Curtis, Roscoe, Isadore, Everett. 2 sisters Olga Slone, Sadie King.
               Served US Army 1942-1945
               Coal mining history: Retired after mine injury in 1973.
               Note: Found out had cancer in Jun 1984, had a lung removed.
               Church affiliation: Joined 22 Feb 1985.

Liza Bates
               New Salem Association, 1966
               d/o Miles Thornsberry & Clerenda Hall Thornsberry
               b. 12 May 1884
               d. 9 Jan 1966
               Married Lumb Bates about 1902
               Children: 8; Curt, Roscoe, Isador, Ellis, Everett, Clerinda, Olga, Sada
               Survivors: 3 brothers.
               Preceded in death: 2 sisters, 3 brothers.
               Church affiliation: Joined on 4th Saturday of August 1941; member of Providence Church
               Note indicated had cancer.

Luther Bates
               Thornton Union Association, 1986
               Born 4 Oct 1907 in Knott Co KY
               Died 3 Dec 1985
               s/o Ireland Bates and Cordia Hall Bates
               Married on 25 Mar 1930 to Minnie Baker
               Children: 5 daughters: Alpha Fields, Lucille Polly, Joyce Brooks, Barbara Duncil, Helen Cook.
               Survivors: Alpha, Lucille, Joyce, Barbara. 2 brothers: Noble Bates and Russell Bates. 14                              grandchildren. 12 great-grandchildren.

Mary Alice “Babe” Bates
               New Salem Association, 1964
               Died 02 Dec 1962 at 1 PM.
               Married Joe Bates, he preceded her in death.
               Children: 12.  R. B. Bates of Hindman KY, Clearance of Omaha, Ernest of Jackhorn KY, Andy                  of Roxana KY, Landis of Topmost KY, Tilden of Melvin KY, Flara of Louisville KY, Rosie of                    Melvin KY, Lily of Thornton KY, Mary Ann of Jackhorn KY.
               Preceded in death: children Columbus and Nebraska.
               Church affiliation: Providence Church member.

Maryland D. Bates
               Union Association, 1983
               Born 28 Feb 1886 on Beaver Creek in Knott Co KY.
               Death 5 Jul 1983
               s/o Uriah Bates and Mary Higgins Bates.
“… His father and mother both died when he was only two years old, and he grew up without knowing the love of a mother and the protecting hand of a father.  When he was eight years old, he was brought to Millstone, in Letcher Co., to live with his uncle Garret Bates when he was sixteen he went to make his home with Bert Tolliver on Thornton Creek, where he lived until he was grown. In the year of 1906 he was married to Mattie E. Craft and they made their home on Millstone and raised a large family of children…”
               “…On Feb. 6, 1958, after fifty-two years of happy married life, his good wife was called away…”
               Church affiliation: Member of Elizabeth Church.
               Survived: 3 sons Jesse, Columbus, Daniel Bates. 2 daughters Pollie Ann Buck, Rachel Berry.
               Preceded in death: 3 children Enoch Bates, Lizzie Hoskins, Howard Bates.

Minnie Baker Bates
               Thornton Union Association, 1988
               Born 17 Aug 1908
               Died 12 Apr 1988
               d/o Sherman and Minerva Sergent Baker
               Married: 25 Mar 1930 to Luther Bates
Survivors: Alpha Fields, Barbara Duncil of Naples FL. Lucille Polly, Joyce Brooks of Whitesburg, KY.
               Preceded in death by husband Luther, daughter Helen Cook.
               Church affiliation: Thornton Regular Baptist Church.

Noble Bates
               Thornton Union Association, 1992
               s/o Ireland Bates & Cordia Hall Bates
               b. Knott Co KY, 12 Aug 1919
               d. Wed 11 Mar 1992, Hazard Appalachian Regional Medical Center
               Member of Thornton Church of Mayking, KY
               Member of United Mine Workers of America Local No. 1468
               Married to Pauline King Bates on 12 Oct 1957
               Survivors:            wife Pauline Bates of Whitesburg, KY
3 sons: Bill Bates of Mayking, KY; N. H. Bates & Noble Darrell Bates of Whitesburg, KY
3 daughters: Vicki Lowe of Norton, VA; Kathy Lynn Mullins & Euna “Wissy” Bates of Whitesburg, KY
5 grandchildren; 4 step-grandchildren; 1 step-great-grandchild.
               Preceded in death by 1 daughter, 4 sisters, 5 brothers.

Robert Nelson Bates
               Thornton Union Association, 1960
               s/o Samuel J. and Pollie Webb Bates
               Born 21 Jan 1918
               Died 3 Apr 1960
               Served: WW II in Canal Zone.
               Note: at age 28, married Lavinna Stewart.          
               Children: 6.  Carol Sue, Donna Daye, Phyllis Ann, Bobby Lynn, Gary Dean, Marsha Yvonne.
Church affiliation: March 6 (year was not noted on my notes), he and wife joined church and were baptized.
Survivors: wife. 6 Children. Mother and step-father Brack and Pollie Bates Whitaker. 3 brothers: Lucian of Westport IN, Raleigh of Hope IN, Watson of Otis Air Force Base in Massachusetts. 5 sisters: Mildred of Dunnuville KY, Virginia of Melvin KY, Kathryn of Buckingham KY, Sybil of Gary IN, Glenna of Beckley W VA.

Cain Hall
               New Salem Association, 1934
               s/o James and Nancy Hall
               Born 09 Nov 1858
               Died 17 Mar 1934
Married 1st: Susan Johnson about 1880. d/o Lish Johnson.  Children: 2.  1 died prior to Cain’s death. 1 “Thomas” living at time of Cain’s death.
Married 2nd: Mary Jane Johnson about 1890. d/o Caleb Johnson. Children: 7. 2 died prior to Cain’s death. 6 living at time of Cain’s death.
Survivors: 2 brothers, 2 sisters.
Church affiliation: Member of Joppa Church, joined in 1887.
Note: Moved from Jacks Creek, Floyd Co KY with son Buddy Hall to Pike Co, Myra KY.
Burial: Myra, Pike Co KY.

Clerenda Hall
               New Salem Association, 1983
               Born 18 May 1904, Kite KY
               d/o C. B. Bates and Eliza Thornsberry Bates
               Died 10 Dec 1982
               Married: Charlie Hall.
               Children: 10.
               Preceded in death: Charlies Hall. 1 daughter Judy Carol Owens.
Survived: 4 son: C. B. Hall of Pippa Passes KY, Gordon Hall of Marion IN, Tommy Hall, Adrian Hall of Pippa Passes KY.  5 daughters: Gertrude Smith of Pippa Passes KY, Dixie Owens of Dayton OH, Eliza Sparkman of Pippa Passes KY, Virginia Allen of Trenton OH, Peggy Hall of Columbus IN.  5 brothers: Cutis Bates of Charlestown IN, Roscoe Bates of Kite KY, Isadore Bates of Waverly OH, Ellis Bates of Kite KY, Everett Bates of Dayton OH. 2 sisters: Olga Slone of Kite KY, Sadie King of Mt. Sterling KY. 14 Grandchildren, 4 great-grandchildren.

Granville Hall
               New Salem Association, 1981
               Born 28 May 19__ (notes not clear; think 1900)
               Died 31 Jul 19__ (notes not clear; think 1980)
               s/o Sarah Eveline Hall; grandson of Harrison Hall.
               Children: 10 children, 6 step-children.
               Preceded in death: 2 children.

Joe Hall
               Born 5 Jan 1888
               Died 27 Jun 1984
               s/o Jeff and Clearenda Hall
Married 1st to Martha Hall on 18 May 1907; preceded him in death. Together had 12 children, 7 sons, 5 daughters.
               Married 2nd to Sarah Coburn; preceded him in death.
               Married 3rd to Carrie Grimes.
Survivors: Carrie Grimes.  4 sons: Corbet, Noah, Willie, Joe Jr. 4 daughters: Carrie Hall, Eliza Redford, Arizona Debvore, Olive Cox.  48 grandchildren.
               Preceded in death: 1 daughter Maybelle. 3 sons Ira, Irvin, Leonard.

Jonah Hall
               New Salem Association, 1985
               Born 26 Feb 1902
               Died 24 Jan 1985
               Married: Anna Slone Hall on Feb 1926
               s/o Has Hall and Betty Johnson Hall
               Children: 15. 2 daughters preceded in death: infant Elva Lee and Hestelent Rowe.
Survivors: 9 daughters: Fern Fouts of Kite KY, Hasalene Hall of Kite KY, Joyce Amburgey of Amburgey KY, Joetta Johnson, Faye Thornsberry, Hassie Thornsberry, Stella Thornsberry, Wilma Atwood of Michigan.  4 sons: Buddy Hall, Troy Hall, Jonah Hall Jr of Kite, KY, Bill Hall of Michigan.  1 brother: Benny Hall of Greenup KY.  3 half-brothers: Delmar, Dempsy, Charlie of Ohio.  29 grandchildren.  29 great-grandchildren.
Preceded in death: 2 half-sisters preceded in death –Ella Blair and Myrtle Moore.

Martha Hall
               Indian Bottom Association, 1984
               Born 2 Aug 1889
               Died 19 Jun 1950
               d/o Elder Noah and Maggie Reynolds
               Married Joe Hall on 18 May 1907
               Children: 12, 7 sons, 5 daughters.
               Preceded in death: 3 sons –Irvin, Ira, Leonard.
Survivors: Joe. 4 sons: Corbett, Noah, Willie, Joe Jr.  5 daughters: Carrie, Liza, Arizona, Maybelle, Olive.
               Church affiliation: Joined 4th Saturday in June 1938, Old Carr Regular Baptist Church.

Sada Hall
               New Salem Association, 1986  
               Born 9 Aug 1915 in Deane, KY
               d/o Jason “Ped” Hall and Gracia Meade Hall
               Married: 18 Oct 1936 to Estil Hall, the s/o Alex Hall & Sallie Bates Hall.
Children: 6; Nora Everidge of Whiteburg, KY; Charles Hall, James Hall, Glenda Holbrook of Kite, KY; Darrell Hall of Mallie, KY; Neva Francis of Garrett, KY.
Survivors: 10+ grandchildren; 1 grandchild preceded in death; 3 sisters, 1 brother.
Church affiliation: Joined Rebecca Old Regular Baptist Church on Sunday, 10 Sep 1978.

Lettie Jane Johnson
               Union Association, 1937
               Born 17 Mar 1877
               Died 12 Apr 1937
               Married: William Johnson in 1896.
               Children: 4 sons and 1 daughter.
               Preceded in death: 2 sons.        
               Church affiliation: age 42, member of Thornton Church.

Lily Fair Bates Perry
               New Salem Association, 1984
               Born 13 Mar 1874
               Death 16 Aug 1968
               d/o Urah and Luanna Hall Bates
               Married: Henry Perry
               Children: 11, 5 deceased, 6 living.
               Reared: 2 stepsons, 1 stepdaughter.
               Church affiliation: Joined Rebecca Church on Oct 1934.
               Survivors: 71 grandchildren; many great-grandchildren; 1 half-sister; 2 half-brothers.
               Survivors: Green, Mary, Mattie, Lizzie, Dussy, Sylivia.

W. H. Vanover
               Indian Bottom Association, 1937
               Died 19 Jan 1937
               s/o Andrew & Peggy Vanover
               Born 04 Nov 1866
               Married 1st: Harriette  Poindexter in 1887; children: 8.
               Preceded in death: wife and 6 children.
               Married 2nd: Sarah Howell in 1901; children: 11. 3 died in infancy.
               Survived: wife Sarah Vanover and 10 children (2 from first marriage, 8 from second marriage).
               Church affiliation: Joined 25 Sep 1910.

Diamond Waddles
               New Salem Association, 1984
               B. 01 Jul 1902
               d. 25 May 1984 at St. Joseph Hospital, Lexington KY
s/o Squint & Frankie Jane Hall Waddles
Survivors: wife Millie Hall Waddles; 2 girls he reared: Doris Waddles of Kite, KY and Juanitia King of Kite, KY.
               Preceded in death: 3 sisters: Clara Johnson, Nancy Caudill, Lula Hall.

Pollie Bates Whitaker
               Thornton Union Association, 1967
               Born 7 Jun 1897
               Died: 6 AM, 26 Sep 1966 at Appalachian Regional Hospital, Whitesburg, KY
               d/o Nelson R. & Frances Katherine Spangler
               Married: Sam Bates on 9 Feb 1914
Children: 12. Mildred Caudill of Dunnville, KY; Lucian Bates of Westport, IN; Raleigh Bates of Hope, IN; Virginia Bates of Melvin, KY; Katherine Johnson of Buckingham KY; Sybil Johnson of Valparaiso IN; AFC Herbert W. Bates of US Air Force Base in Orlando FL.
               Preceded in death: 1 son Robert; 3 daughters.
Survivors: 34 grandchildren; brothers & sisters: Glenna Barrett of Columbia KY, Lindsay Webb of Mayking KY; Birdie Craft, Sabina Williams, Watson Webb, Elsie Blair, Herbert Webb.
               Married Jan 1949 to Brack Whitaker, who survives.

Facebook Family History notes for: Hall & Johnson connections

Original Facebook post: Friday, February 25, 2011 at 11:08pm.

Facebook Family History notes for: Hall & Johnson connections
Feb 2011, Thursa Marlene (Halcomb-Nunley) Short
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I am related to this couple on my maternal grandmother and grandfather lines. So, use your thinking cap to get it straight.

David Hall
               B 1802-1804, Halifax possibly; Grayson Co VA
               D after 1860, Letcher Co KY
               Married Anna Johnson
s/o Anthony Hall & Ruth Butler (“THE” Revolutionary War Anthony Hall, not hard to find records on him, it’s his descendants that are a tied up paper mess.)
Anna Johnson
               B c1803, Grayson Co VA or KY
               d/o Patrick Johnson & Delilah
Children of David & Anna:
               Eleanor “Nellie” “Elender” Hall
               *see separate entry details below as ancestor on my Johnson line.
               *see separate entry details below on her son Samuel “Sam” Hall line.
William D. “Bill Dee” “Willie” Hall
               *see separate page of notes for ancestor on my Bates line.
               Lydia Hall
                              B 1825, KY
                              Married Owen Mullins in Floyd Co KY
               Mary Emaline Hall
                              B 1827, KY
               Clinton Hall
                              B 1831, KY
                              Married Nancy Hall
               John Layton Hall
                              B 1836, KY
                              D 1860s; killed by Union soldiers
               Marshall Hall
                              B 1842, KY
                              D 1860s; killed by Union soldiers
               Thomas Talton “Bad Talt Hall” Hall
                              B 1849-1850, Letcher Co KY
                              D 2 Sep 1892, Wise Co VA
                              Burial Family Cemetery, Dunham, Letcher Co KY
                              Tales of “Bad Talt Hall of the Cumberland Killings”
                              Married Marinda Triplett, Letcher Co KY
               Harrison Hall
                              *might really be a grandchild
               Henry Hall
                              *might really be a grandchild
               Nancy Hall
                              *might really be a grandchild
               Andrew Hall
                              *might really be a grandchild
               Wesley Hall
                              *might really be a grandchild
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Eleanor “Nellie” “Nelly” “Elender” Hall
               B 28 Feb 1833-1835, Ky
               D 10 Feb 1926
               Married or Relationship with Richard “Dick” “Black Dick” Hall
               married William J. Bates
               *Granny Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates was told that Nellie died age 107 in 1909.
               *1900 Knott Co KY Census data noted she said 9 children, 7 living
               *1910 Knott Co KY Census data noted she said 3 marriages, 9 children, 6 living
               d/o David Hall & Anna Johnson *noted details on this outline
Richard “Dick” “Black Dick” Hall
*notes I’ve seen state no marriage record has been found; but then some note said 1859, no place
               *died when son Sam was age 2 years old due to gun shot
               B 1839
               d before 1867; when son Sam age 2 yrs old; VA or Knott Co KY
William J. “Bill” Bates
               B 28 Nov 1835-1838
               D 3 or 10 or 17 Feb 1919 or 1926
               *Confederate Pension Application #1209, received 10 Sep 1912
                              *Nellie filed 3 May 1919, application #3914
               *1910 Knott Co KY Census data he said married 42 years
               s/o John W. Bates II & Elizabeth Hall
*YES! –these folks tie into other Bates & Hall lines. That’s a given at this point, isn’t it?
Children of Nellie & Dick:
               Elizabeth “Lizzy Bell” Hall
                              B 1860 Letcher Co KY
                              D age 10-11
               Angeline Hall
                              B Sep 1866, Floyd Co KY
                              Married Miles Bates
               Samuel “Sam” Hall
               *see separate entry details below as ancestor on my Johnson line.
Children of Nellie & Bill:
               Sally Ann “Sarah Ann” Bates
                              B 20 Jun 1878
Married Alex “Elic” “Black Alex” Hall
               Pat Annie “Pat Anna” Bates
                              B 10 Jun 1874
                              D 8 Mar 1958
                              Married Wilson King
Benjamin “Ben” Bates
                              30 Sep 1872
                              Married a Bates
*son is a lawyer in Letcher Co KY
               Caroline Bates
                              B 7 Aug 1870
                              D 20 Jul 1961
                              Married Henry Hall
               “Mousie” Bates
                              B 1876
               John W. Bates
                              B 10 Oct 1877
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Samuel “Sam” Hall
               B Jul 1864 or 22 Jul 1861, Kite or Letcher Co KY
               D 20 Jul 1944 Knott Co KY
               Burial Cicero Cemetery at back of Levi Page Cemetery, Kite, Knott Co KY
               Married Malinda “Lynn” “Linda” Johnson
               *youngest child of Nellie & Dick
               *age 2 years at father’s death
               *Nellie was 29 years old when Sam was born
               *Died age 95 years old
*Sam & Nellie were married 1 year when Caroline was born. Angeline is 3 years younger than Caroline.
*first great grandchild was Carneleous “Cack” Bates, son of Andrew J. “Andy” & Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates, d/o Caleb B. “K” & Angeline “Pemmie” (Hall) Johnson. Andy is s/o Joseph “Joe” & Margaret Alice “Mary Alice” “Babe” (Vanover) Bates.
*I have separate note pages on Sam & his wife Lynn Johnson, who have daughter “Pemmie” who has daughter Zettie my maternal grandmother

Malinda “Lynn” “Linda” Johnson
               B 22 Jan 1862
               D 10 Jun 1952, Kite, Knott Co KY
               Burial Cicero Cemetery at back of Levi Page Cemetery, Kite, Knott Co KY
               d/o Elisha & Elizabeth (Pinson Hall) Johnson
               *a midwife
               *died in her 90’s
               *her father was rumored to have had two women and two sets of children

Children of Sam & Lynn:
               Caroline Hall
                              Married Daniel “Bud” Hall
               William “Bill” Hall
                              B Feb 1886
                              Married “Dump” Polly Breeding
               Dickson “Dick” Hall
                              B Mar 1887
                              D 1907
               Martin Hall
                              B Feb 1888
                              Married Lily/Lillie Cook Robinson
               Vada “Vadie” “Vedie” Hall
                              B 19 May 1894
                              D 2 Jun 1976, Letcher Co KY
                              Burial Franklin Cemetery, Crafts Colly, Letcher Co KY
                              Married to Dock Perry, s/o Bill Osborn & Sarah “Sally” Perry
Married to Kay Johnson
Married to William Kelley
Married Elijah Harris
               Talton “Talt” “Hennyman” Hall
                              B Mar 1896
                              D c1916
                              Married Polly Combs
               Alice “Dee” Hall
                              B 21 Oct 1897
                              D 21 Jun 1954
                              Married Webb “Wib” Thornsberry, s/o Miles & Clarinda Thornsberry
               Mattie Hall
                              B 4 May 1900
                              D 5 Jan 1983
                              Married Lewis Thornsberry, s/o Miles & Clarinda Thornsberry
               Mary Ellen “Tootie” Hall
                              B 1903
                              D 1995
                              Married Kay Anderson
               Calvin Hall
                              B 1906
                              D 23 Dec 1988, Knott Co KY
                              M Allie Thornsberry
               Angeline “Pemmie” Hall
                              B 5 Sep 1882, Beaver Creek, Knott Co KY or VA
                              D 23 Mar 1972, Knott Co KY
                              Married Caleb B. “K” Johnson
D cause ovarian tumor
                              Burial Johnson family cemetery, Kite, Knott Co KY
*Baptized into the Old Regular Baptist Church in 1938 by her son-in-law Andrew J. “Andy” Bates.
*attended Mallie Church, Indian Bottom Association, Old Regular Baptist Church; the “old church building”
Married Caleb B. “K” Johnson, s/o Caleb C. & Mahala “Halley” (Justice) Johnson , step-mother was Polly Whitacre
               Martin Hall
               Calvin Hall
                              Married a Tackett
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William D. “Bill Dee” “Willie” Hall
               B 3 Jul 1824, Floyd or Pike Co KY
               D 1 Mar 1909, Kite, then Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Burial Bill Dee Hall Family Cemetery, Kite, then Floyd now Knott Co KY
s/o David Hall and Anna Johnson (s/o Anthony Hall & Ruth Butler) (d/o Patrick & Delilah Johnson)
1850 Floyd Co KY
1870 Floyd Co KY
*Have seen his middle initial as “E” rather than “D”

Luanza “Ansy” “Anza” “Louanza” “Lou Anza” “Linanzie” Isaac(s)
               B 25 Jun 1822, Floyd Co KY
               D 27 May 1913, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Burial Bill Dee Hall Family Cemetery, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               d/o William Isaacs & Sarah Johnson (s/o Samuel Isaacs & Nancy Baldridge) (d/o John Johnson &            Caty Reynolds)

Children of Bill Dee and Lou Anza:
               Luanna “Anna” “Pink” Hall          
*I have a notes page on these families, see for details; Pink had son Joe that had son Andrew my maternal grandfather.
                              B 1850, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
                              D 18 Mar 1891, Knott Co KY
Relationship with Washington Uriah Bates
                              Relationship with Rhodes W. Meade
               James Harrison Hall
                              B 20 Jan 1845-1846, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
                              D 17 Nov 1931, Knott Co KY
                              Burial Harrison Hall Cemetery, Knott Co KY
                              Married Emmarine Vance
Married Elizabeth “Sissy” Bates, d/o John W. Bates Jr & Elizabeth Hall)
Children of Harrison & Sissy:
               Haskcue HC Buddy Hall, married Margaret Ellen Hall
               Jertho “Bones” Hall, married Rosie “Doll” Meade
               Martha “Sissy” Hall, married Tilden Bates
               Sarah Evaline Hall, married Thomas “Devil” Hall
               Mary M. “Curls” Hall, married K. Adams
               Laura Belle Hall, married Alec Mullins
               W. M. “Merdia” Hall, died 2 yrs old
               Eliza Hall, died as infant
               Rose Annie Hall, married Mashen Thorbury or Marshall
               Nebraska “Braska” Hall, married John Jones
               Harrison B. HB Hall, married Mary Hall
               Sarah Hall          
                              B 1848-1851, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Henry A. Hall
                              B 1853-1854, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Andrew Jackson Hall
                              B 23 Feb 1855-58, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
                              D 1910 or 10 May 1936, Knott Co KY
                              Married Susan Isaacs, d/o Reuben Isaacs & Nancy Hall
               Eleanor “Elenor” “Sis” Hall
                              B 1857-1863, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Margaret “Margret” Hall
                              B 1865, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Susannah Hall
                              B 1852, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
               Marilda Hall
                              B 1866, Kite, Floyd now Knott Co KY
                              Married Miles Vance
               Wesley Hall
               John L. Hall

Notes on Washington Uriah Bates & Luanna “Anna” “Pink” Hall; also Mary Higgins, Rhodes W. Meade

Original Facebook post: Thursday, February 24, 2011 at 8:30pm.

These are notes I made up after looking over stuff. I will update along as I post this in other groups and get any feedback.

Notes on Washington Uriah Bates & Luanna “Anna” “Pink” Hall; also Mary Higgins, Rhodes W. Meade
Family history facebook note; Feb 2011; Thursa Marlene (Halcomb-Nunley) Short
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Washington Uriah “Rarr Bates
               b 06 Apr 1848-1849, Floyd Co KY
               d 09 Aug 1888, Kite, Knott Co KY
               s/o Uriah Bates & Letticia “Letty” Adams
               note says he was killed when daughter Mary was 3 days old; killed in Civil War.
               relationship with Pink Hall –notes are saying never married
               relationship with Mary Higgins
                              b 10 Apr 1862
                              d 09 Aug 1888, burial Kite, Knott Co KY

Luanna “Anna” “Pink” Hall
               b 1850, Kite, Floyd Co KY
               d 18 Mar 1891, Kite, Knott Co KY
               d/o William D. “Bill Dee” Hall & Louanza Isaacs
               relationship with W. Uriah Bates –notes are saying never married
               relationship with Rhodes W. Meade
                              b 1842-1850
                              d 1938

Children of W. Uriah & Pink:
               Joseph “Joe” Bates
                              b 01-03 Mar 1875, Floyd Co KY  
                              d 27 Dec 1928, Seco, Letcher Co KY; buried Kite, Knott Co KY
                              married Margaret Alice “Mary Alice” “Babe” Vanover
               Tilden/Tildon “Tinny” Bates
                              B 01 Dec 1877
                              D 20 Mar 1965
                              Married Martha M. “Sissy” Hall
               Lily Par “Lillie Fair” Bates
                              B 13 Mar 1879
                              D 16 Aug 1968
                              Married Henry Perry

Children of Rhodes W. Meade & Pink:
               Rosa Rosie Ellen “Doll” Meade
                              B 17 May 1885
                              D 1 Nov 1973
                              Married Jethro Hall
               Elizabeth “Tab” Meade
                              B c1880
                              Married Sam Hammons
               Mary Jane “Coon” Meade
                              B c1880
                              Married Willie Hall
               Luly Meade
                              B c1870-1890
               “Snow” Meade
                              B c1870-1890

Children of W. Uriah & Mary:
               Columbus “Lum” Bates
                              Some notes say son of Uriah & Mary, some Uriah & Pink
                              B 17 May 1881
                              D 30 Oct 1975, Lexington KY
                              Married Liza Thornsberry, married Virgie Slone
               Ireland Bates
                              Some notes say son of Uriah & Mary, some Uriah & Pink
                              B 12 Mar 1884
                              D 06 Aug 1928
                              Married Cordia Hall
               Maryland D. Bates
                              Some notes say son of Uriah & Mary, some Uriah & Pink
                              B 28 Feb 1886
                               D 05 Jan 1983
                              Married Mattie Craft
               Mary Bates
                              B May 1888
                              D 27 Apr 1960
                              Married Maryland Hall
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1860 Letcher County Kentucky Census
               502. Bates, Uriah age 32 b KY
                              Letty age 31 b KY
                              Mary age 7 b KY
                              Babe age 2/12 b KY

1910 Knott County Kentucky Census
               138. Bates, Joseph age 35 married 15 years farmer
                              Mary A. age 35 children 8; 8 living
                              Uriah age 12
                              Andrew age 10
                              Clarence age 9
                              Ernest age 7
                              Flora age 5
                              Mary A. age 3
                              Landis age 2
                              Tilden age 6/12