Knott County Kentucky Census Record notes: Bates & Hall families

Original Facebook post: Sunday, February 20, 2011.

Knott County Kentucky Census Record notes: Bates & Hall families
August 1992 search notes per Thursa (Halcomb-Nunley) Short

This ties to my Bates family line as Joseph and Mary A. Bates are parents to Andrew who’s father of Molene –my mother.

This ties to my Hall families as Nellie with husband/relationship with Dick Hall are parents of Sam hall father of Pemmie Hall mother of Zettie Bates  mother of Molene –my mother.

For added twist, of course no surprise, Nellie was married to William “Bill” as seen here and had children who are kin via the Bates side of my family; Nellie ties back to the Bates family via Hall ancestors in common.

No matter what tree branch I follow on my maternal side –I’m related to William and Nellie as noted on this census.


1900 Knott County Kentucky Census
               373. Bates, William  b Nov 1840  age 59 farmer
                              Nellie b Feb 1835 age 65 children 9; 7 living

1910 Knott County Kentucky Census
               112. Bates, William J.  age 70 married 42 years
                              Nellie age 75 3rd marriage, children 9; 6 living

               138. Bates, Joseph age 35 married 15 years farmer
                              Mary A. age 35 children 8; 8 living
                              Uriah age 12
                              Andrew age 10
                              Clarence age 9
                              Ernest age 7
                              Flora age 5
                              Mary A. age 3
                              Landis age 2
                              Tilden age 6/12

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Updated note 01 FEB 2014.

     This is a picture I took of a picture my (Great) Aunt Rosie had been given of her parents -also the parents of my maternal great-grandparents.  I don't recall where she thought the original would have been,  but this would have been on a visit to her my mom & Granny Tudy Bates in the late 80s to the mid 90s.  Photo of Margaret Alice "Mary Alice" "Babe" (Vanover) and Joseph "Joe" Bates.

     In 1910, my maternal grandfather Andy Bates was 10 years old.  That's the age one of my sons is turning soon.  My, the world is certainly a different place than it was back then.  This is a picture of my maternal grandfather -Andrew J. "Andy" Bates on his front porch.  Wife of Zettie Walker "Tudy" (Johnson) Bates; son of Joe and Mary Alice (Vanover) Bates; father of Molene (Bates) Halcomb my mother.
   
     In the bottom left corner, I see the old clipboard.  This would have been taken before I would have started writing family story notes.  I wonder what list was being made on that board.  He is dressed in his Sunday clothes, he as a Preacher with the Old Regular Baptist.  Or, it could have been a picture taken before or after a funeral.
   

Notes from Knott Co KY Census Record 1910

Facebook posting 06 February 2011

Knott Co KY Census Record 1910

In August 1992, I reviewed records of this census with my maternal Granny Zettie Walker “Tudy” (Johnson) Bates.  First I will note the two entries, then I’ll make some “clarification” notes to assure that some family history buffs who are distant family know who’s really who on here.

124. Johnson, Caleb        age 37   married 9 years                 farmer

               Anazaline            age ?     4 children

               William M.         age 8

               Bettie                  age 5

               Estil                    age 2

               Letta                  age 5/12

142. Hall, Samuel          age 50   married 32 years               farmer

               Sinda                 age 57

               Martin               age 21

               Nevada             age 16

               Talt                   age 15

               Allice               age 13

               Maddie           age 9

               Mary E.          age 7

               Calvin             age 3

For 124 entry, the second entry Anazaline is Angeline “Pemmie” (Hall) Johnson. Her parents are entry 142. The census taker misspelled her name.

For 124 entry, Bettie is my maternal grandmother -Zettie, and Letta is her sister -Lettie.  The census taker misspelled their names.

For 142 entry, Sinda is Malinda “Lynn”.  The census taker misspelled her name. 

     There was no malice or ignorance of the census taker. The person would make a record based on whoever gave the information, and enunciation, and also the person hired to do the job writing education. 

     I always thought that Lynn sure was a fertile woman as she was in her 50s still having babies to raise. She also was a midwife who delivered many babies in those hollers.

     I note now that Zettie was 5 years old, same age as my youngest son. When she was that age, she already was doing so many chores that you’d never dream of having even a teenager do; but it was common work for all young kids back then –especially the oldest kids living at home. She could cook, do laundry (when there were no machines to do it), garden (not play, but work the crops), and by that age every child was a babysitter to the toddlers when a new baby was to be looked after.